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  Disfellowshipping - Quid Pro Quo - Satan's Accusation

  by doublespeak in

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  if under jw doctrine, satan's accusation is that a human serves god for the purpose of what he can get out of it, does the disfellowshipping arrangement, exercised to the degree that the governing body deem to be appropriate, support this charge?.

  taking for granted the jehovah’s witnesses are god’s chosen organization; on the assumption that the angels (who apparently cannot read heart conditions) looking upon humanity who are making a stand for the issue of sovereignty , are unable to discern those who are in the religion because of their family and friends.

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  Village Idiot

  evilApostate,
  

  The funny thing about pascal's wager is that there exists many gods and religious beliefs concerning said gods.

  The problem with Pascal's wager is that it assumes a moralistic god who cares about good and evil and/or your wellbeing. What if a creator god doesn't give a fig about you whether you believe in him or not?

  On the other hand let's assume that God is a moralistic god who doesn't mind whether you believe in him or not?

  Pascal's idea of god was limited by Judeo-Christian concepts, not Deistic or non-biblical Theism.
  
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  Is the year 2020 the new prediction for Armageddon?

  by Disassociated Lady 2 in

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  i have had a conversation this evening with a jw friend i have known since childhood.

  he is of the opinion that armageddon will have come and gone within the next 5 years.

  are the jws now pinpointing 2020 as the supposed year?

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  Village Idiot

  Schnell, that song used to be a childhood favorite of mine.
  
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  Is the year 2020 the new prediction for Armageddon?

  by Disassociated Lady 2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have had a conversation this evening with a jw friend i have known since childhood.

  he is of the opinion that armageddon will have come and gone within the next 5 years.

  are the jws now pinpointing 2020 as the supposed year?

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  Village Idiot

  Why should you generalize an opinion from one JW to all of them?
  
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  Will Donald Trump Be Impeached Before His Term Ends?

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

  1. social
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  i'm thinking his willful failure to be briefed by the cia about russian election tampering and not understanding diplomatic protocall.

  making off handed statements without proper research about the mater.

  he's an outsider when it comes to running the government that will make big mistakes at every turn because he seems clueless when it comes to running a government.. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/michael-moore-predicts-trump-impeach-resign_us_58261464e4b0c4b63b0c6dee.

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  Village Idiot

  From the LA Times:
  

  The president elect comes to the job with the habits of an entrepreneur and a showman, not a manager of large organization. He's known for making decisions based on the last advice he heard. He makes policy pronouncements on Twitter, often without his aides knowing in advance.

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  "Trump is further behind on taking control of the bureaucracy than any President in history."

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  "Trump has never dealt with a bureaucracy like this," Light said. "His businesses are flat, and that's fine. But the federal government is arguably the least flat organization there is; it has 63 layers of executives and managers."
  

  http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-mcmanus-trump-chaos-20170108-story.html
  
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  Will Donald Trump Be Impeached Before His Term Ends?

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

  1. social
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  i'm thinking his willful failure to be briefed by the cia about russian election tampering and not understanding diplomatic protocall.

  making off handed statements without proper research about the mater.

  he's an outsider when it comes to running the government that will make big mistakes at every turn because he seems clueless when it comes to running a government.. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/michael-moore-predicts-trump-impeach-resign_us_58261464e4b0c4b63b0c6dee.

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  Village Idiot

  Vidiot,

  I don't think he'll cower so much as just not give a shit.
  

  You have a point.
  
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  Will Donald Trump Be Impeached Before His Term Ends?

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

  1. social
  2. current

  i'm thinking his willful failure to be briefed by the cia about russian election tampering and not understanding diplomatic protocall.

  making off handed statements without proper research about the mater.

  he's an outsider when it comes to running the government that will make big mistakes at every turn because he seems clueless when it comes to running a government.. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/michael-moore-predicts-trump-impeach-resign_us_58261464e4b0c4b63b0c6dee.

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  I believe that it's not what Trump does that will endanger us but what he will not do. The Russians can overrun Eastern Europe and he would just cower and do nothing.
  
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  Will Donald Trump Be Impeached Before His Term Ends?

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

  1. social
  2. current

  i'm thinking his willful failure to be briefed by the cia about russian election tampering and not understanding diplomatic protocall.

  making off handed statements without proper research about the mater.

  he's an outsider when it comes to running the government that will make big mistakes at every turn because he seems clueless when it comes to running a government.. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/michael-moore-predicts-trump-impeach-resign_us_58261464e4b0c4b63b0c6dee.

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  Village Idiot

  Brokeback Watchtower,

  I hope the US government enacts regulation in the future to prevent embarrassing situations like this moron suffering from a personality disorder becoming president from ever happening again. At least some type some kind of appropriate psychoanalysis recommending them safe for the job of running a country.
  

  There should be an IQ test, a psychopathy test, and a geopolitical test given to every candidate of any party before they can even be considered for public office.
  
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  You wake up one morning and see

  by A Believer in

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  the un has banned religion.

  what are you're thoughts?.

  also changes to it seem to be on the way.... http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/12/trump-vows-israel-vote-161224040133216.html.

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  undercover,
  

  Well, I guess the WTS won't need to renew that library card this year
  

  
  
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  Walking away will get you D/Fed

  by Drifting Away in

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  someone just told my wife, that those who are just leaving organization or not going anymore will be dfed, has anyone read that or heard of that?

  i have seen nothing of that, and according to jackson at royal commission, we are free to go as we please...

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  Village Idiot

  They were disfellowshipping those who were no longer in attendance in the early 1980s. They had an article where they equated those who were not at the meetings, calling them disassociated, with those who were disfellowshipped. In the Watchtower article, they even made it a point to write out disassociated/disfellowshipped in one word with that slash.

  Raymond Franz himself was disfellowshipped for having a meal with his landlord/employer who was an inactive member (even though the article came out after he was seen with him).

  In my disfellowshipping appeal, I told the elders that I wanted to disassociate myself and they said that it would not make a difference based on that very same article.

  I also knew an elderly lady JW and neighbor of mine that was disfellowshipped around that time simply for not attending the meetings.
  

  I don't think they're doing that anymore but you never know; they can go back to it anytime.
  
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  My Dad wants to study with me

  by BlackWolf in

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  so my parents continue to pester me about getting baptized.

  the other day my dad told me that i was old enough to make a decision, and was wondering why i wasn't ready (assembly is in a few weeks) so i told him calmly that i have many doubts and if i were to get baptized it has to be 100 percent my idea.

  he was a little annoyed by this, and now wants to study the "is there a creator that cares about you" book (which is complete bs) with me.

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  Village Idiot

  BlackWolf,
  

  ...if worse comes to worse maybe one of my non jw relatives will let me stay with them.
  

  As Outlaw said you might want to touch bases with your non-JW relatives before anything happens. One thing is sure, you're not going to get out of your situation until you get out of their house.